Most comprehensive advice on what ECU programmers clone are verified working fine and good investment, tools advice including Kess v2 master fw v5.017, Ktag master 7.020, Fgtech Galletto V54 (0475 & 0386), MPPS V18 /V16, ktm bench, ktmobd . Starts from the basic info comparison, advice which are really good according to users’ real test, ends with these ECU tools reviews.
- Basic info comparison table of best clone Kess v2 master, Ktag master and Fgtech Galletto V54.
- Being a professional ECU tunner, which one to have?
- What ECU programmers are best which are verified working fine and good investment.
- Kess v2 V5.017 master reviews, Fgtech Galletto V54 reviews, MPPS V18 reviews
Here we go one by one.
Table 1: pcmflash VS KTM bench VS KTMOBD VS KTMflash
|PCMflash||KTM bench boot||KTM OBD||KTMFLASH|
|Price||$11015 in total||$229 (free shipping)||$399 (free shipping)||$215 (free shipping)|
|Read and write ECU data||√||√||√||√|
|Read gearbox data||√||×||×||√|
|read the chip data||√||×||×||√|
|ECU reading & writing method||Boot, OBD,Tricore||via Boot & Bench (no need to open the cover)||via OBD||Most need to disassemble ECU|
|Language||Multilanguage||English, Russian||English, Russian||English, Russian|
|Update||online||download the newest software||Replace the newest dongle and download the newest software||Replace the newest dongle and download the newest software|
|workable ECU types||google search||In the above link||In the above link||google search|
KTM bench boot: read and write ECU via Boot & Bench (no need to open the cover).
A cheap alternative, help reduce the pressure to purchase expensive original equipment(almost 6000USD).
KTMOBD ECU Programmer: read & write ECU data via OBD on most Japanese ECU types.
KTMFLASH ECU Programmer: read & write ECU data by disassembling ECU, also read gearbox data, it reads the ECU data of VAG, Infineon, Bosch, Continental, Chinese types etc.
|Item Name||KESS V2 EU version Red PCB online version||KESS V2 online version Green PCB online version||KESS V2 Firmware v5.017||Ktag master Red PCB||Ktag master, red pcb, 4 led||Ktag master 7.003 (Discontinued, purchase Ktag 7.020 instead)||FGTech Galletto V54|
|Firmware Version||FW V5.017||FW V5.017||FW V5.017||Fw V7.020||fw V7.020||fw 7.003||V54 ( 0386 & 0475)|
|Item Number||SE137-C1||SE137-C||SE137-C3||SE135-B1||SE135-E||SE80-D||SE61-GB / SE61-GB1|
|Price (free shipping)||$94.99||$105||$69.99||$94.99||$69.99||$215||$54.99|
|Tokens||Unlimited Tokens||Unlimited Tokens||Unlimited Tokens||No Token Limitation||Unlimited tokens||No need|
|OS||Win XP / Win7 32bit, Win 8, etc||Win XP / Win7 32bit, Win 8, etc||Win XP Win7 32bit Win 8 etc.||Win XP Win7 32bit Win 8 etc.||Win XP Win7 32bit Win 8 etc.||Win XP, WIN732bit||Win XP, WIN7 bit|
|Language||English, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French.||English, Italian, Portuguese||English,
Deutsch, Francais, Espanol, Portugues, Czech,
|Function||read and write the Data of Engine ECU||read and write the Data of Engine ECU||read and write the Data of Engine ECU||read and write the Data of Engine ECU||read and write the Data of Engine ECU||read and
|Vehicle Coverage||cars/trucks/tractors/bikes||cars/trucks/tractors/bikes||cars/tractors/bikes||World-wide famous brand cars||Support both Car, Motorcycle and Truck ECU Programming||cars, trucks,
bikes and boat
|Support Motorcycle||Covers a small part||Covers a small part||Covers a small part||Covers a small part||Covers a small part||Covers
a small part
|Covers a small part|
|Via BDM or OBD||Via OBD||Via OBD||Via OBD||Via BDM||Via BDM,available Protocols BDM MOTOROLA MPC5xx||Via BDM||Via BDM and OBD2|
|Software Update||by CD||by CD||by CD||by CD||by CD||by CD||by CD|
1). Kess (even china good clone)…more stable than Mpps on can-line and good job on recovery…mpps good job on k-line (sometimes and can-line)…fgtech (i hate this tool)-but sometimes save your as…and best ktag-trasdata-no obd but safe boot mode,pinout direct conection and bdm…i talk about low price tools.
2). KESS V2 is a ECU programming tool that is perfect for OBD use, while KTag is perfect for Jtag, BDM and all the Boot application (tricore and ST10).
With KESS V2 you programming directly through the OBD port of the vehicle, while with Ktag you need to take apart the ECU and open it, after you can make the read/write operation.
Many ECU has the advantage that can be read and write from OBD port (so KESS V2 is perfect), but there are lot ECU that need to disassemble from the car and open and this is the case for all the ECU that need to be programmed with Jtag, BDM and Boot protocols, so KTAG is needed.
3). Fgtech Galletto V54 ECU programming tool is perfect for both OBD use and BDM use. Fgtech Galletto is the no tokens limitation while KESS V2 and Ktag will use tokens.
To sum up, being a professional ECU tunner, you need all the above-mentioned tools: Kess v2 master, MPPS, Ktag master, Fgtech Galletto V54.
FYI, master Version VS slave version:
if you have master version you can work directly on the program you have write on the vehicle (tunning, egr off, ….) and rewrite after directly.
if you are a slave customer (who depend of a master (who do modificated), you read the programme (scripted by genius), you send it to the master, he do what you want (money paid) and he re-sent to you to write in the ecu machine.
it is expensive for the slave user who depend of a master.
KTMBENCH and KTMFLASH
Tonight I tested Volvo edc17cp22. Working well.
I also tested cp48 and cp68, almost same ecu. Also Volvo.
cp14 works good.
as i can see it reads all except boot area, for recovery purpose.
tested also sid 807 evo in boot. works.
Cable Vkey don’t have 12v.
after split power cable all works.
the cable needs to be reworked, Cut vkey cable and solder to vecu cable.
Connector db15 don’t have 12v+ on output KTM adepter. I reworked power adepter so i can use ktag db15 cable.
KTM READ AND WRITE DUCATO 3.0 2013 EDC 17C52
FAST AND WELL
used on edc17c19 no issues
KTM OBD AND KTM FLASH NEED FEEDBACK
I try with DSG 250 worked well
NOW KTMOBD AND KTMFLASH THEY CHANGE THE INTERFACE NOT USING OPENPORT, THEY CHANGE DIALINK, SOME ONE SAY MORE STABLE.
1. Best kess v2 master clone:
1).Kess V2 V5.017 (SE137-C3) EU version with Red PCB, best quality, best performance among the clones.
2). Kess V2 v5.017, Red PCB, online version (SE137-C1)
3). SE137-C3+SE135-E (Kess V2 5.017 + Ktag 7.020 ) , hot selling
2. Best Ktag master clone:
1). Ktag 7.020, online version (won’t be locked), red pcb, with 4 LED.
2) Ktag 7.020, red pcb, online version ( SE135-B1)
3. Best Fgtech V54 Galletto:
1). Fgtech V54 0475 EU version (SE61-GB1) , $54.99 free shipping
2) . Fgtech V54 0386, $54.99 free shipping
3. FGTech V54 Galletto 4 Master (Item No. SE61-G), $59.99 free shipping
MPPS V16.1.02 (Item No. SE106), it is best selling, $15.99 free shipping.
MPPS V16 ECU chip tuning interface support read and create flash for EDC15 EDC16 and EDC17 checksum. MPPS v16 has produced some improvements of EDC15 and DDE4. It has adds VAG EDC17 CHECKSUM programming function. New cars have been added to MPPS V16.
MPPS V16 Win10 installation is confirmed.
The safest method is to install on XP
XP download link: https://share.weiyun.com/5VP1mxN pass:1zkboe
2). MPPS 21 MAIN + TRICORE + MULTIBOOT with Breakout Tricore Cable
1) . Kess v2 V5.017 master reviews
edc15/16/17 basics work fine.. Kline an Can ok
lot of denso ok ,tested today on 2016 navarra 2.5L 144hp (7059) all fine..via OBD of course (check ktag for jtag,tricore and others… )
(The EDC17 made by OBD are Audi, bmw and renault without Tp)
Kess accept virtual read i test on AUDI A5 2.0 TDI 143hp 2013 EDC17CP46. it”s ok by obd
ksuite Sw reset token when open, same as all kess 5.017 or new ktag 7.020/26 Fw.
Berlingo 9HX: only readID from engineand works ok
PSA Bosch EDC 16: read ok
Skoda Octavia 1.9 AXR EDC15: read ok
BMW EDC17CP02: OBD write ok
BMW EDC15: OBD read/write ok
Ford Mondeo SID206: read/write ok
K-line and CAN both OK
VW EDC17CP14: read/write with tricore module
2008 Sprinters with Edc16:no issues
KESS V5.017 can support car/truck/tractor/Bike…support both 12V and 24V vehicle..and newer vehicles
KESS V5.017 has no grey protocols ..full protocols such as EDC17/k-line/DSG/DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox/ST10….
2)reviews of Ktag KTM100 firmware 7.003 (Discontinued, purchase Ktag 7.020 instead)
K-tag KTM100 firmware 7.003 reviews… here you go.
Interface Tested.It works great.
Made a 116d F20 successfully. Good job !
KTM100 is just 6.070 firmware transferred to trasdata which is equivalent to 7.003 on KTM100
Ktm 100 100% Working on Bmw F31 335Xdrive, i have ever tried it. Working!!.
tricore boot mode ktm100 test read ok
test ecu med17.1.1 audi a8 v8 2012y
writing : no
ecu clon no
ktm100 can make edc17c64. where to find fake firmware v7.003 to upgrade v6.070, then there is posible to make edc17c64 on eu clones.
ktag and dimsport ktm100 is the same hardware with separate software.
There is no Update from version 6.070 to 7.003, because Board is different, Board is from Dim Sport, and Software too.
read and write without problem, i cannot believe there, but there is true.
My friend have Ktag v7.003 clone and he made edc17c64 without problem.
I try it with edc17c64; reading ok,writing ok
3). Fgtech Galletto V54 reviews
Fgtech Galletto china clone is no gold immersions but PCB and soldering quality is really very good, Fgtech galletto china clone have the same component of EU clone.
Also I have 2 galletto. One with yellow relays and second one with black. Both of them works very good.
I test FGtech galletto V54 on Audi 2009, Tiguan 2009, Passat 2009 and Golf 6 2009. It supports not all ecus edc17, Sure edc17cp04 and edc17cp14 year 2009 can read-write in obd. But edc17cp20, edc17cp44,etc, etc same year, have tricore protected active, and if you write in obd, ecu bloqued. I think TProt on VAG are present from 05/2009 but is very random this option is most present on engine with low power and is not compeer to years or ecu type.The best way to know if tp is active is always bootmode and read tag on file.
Fgtech Galletto china clone test report:
· ME 7.3.1
· edc16c39 read time 40 MINUT!
· id Alfa 147 immo off (k line /boot mode)
· edc16c31 obd
· BMW X5 2007 3.0TDI
· EDC16 OBD
· BMW 525 (E39)
· BMW 320D E46
· bmw e90
· Grande Punto read 1_3 MJT 75 hp
· delphi CRD2
· Opel Corsa-D CAN
· edc15c7 boot mode (ID problems)
· EDC 16C34
· EDC16c3 K line
· Renault Delphi 2007 k-line
· Golf Plus 2006 2.0TDI
· A4 2.0 tdi 2008
· Skoda octavia vrs 2005
· EDC15P K lINE
· VW crafter READ
· VW Golf5 1.9TDI
· Audi A6 V8 4.2l Petrol (over OBD fuse for dash fuse 11 or 15 , but it worked after pulling the fuse for dash and it went 100%)
· But edc17cp20, edc17cp44, etc, etc same year, have tricore protected active, and if you write in obd, ecu bloqued.
- BMW E70 3.0D EDC16
· bmw. edc16c35 from
· (Opel) EDC16c9
· iveco edc16 BDM
Via BOOT TRICORE
- Audi A6
3). MPPS V18 reviews
Astra h 1.9 tva off OBD and Zafira B 1.9 EGR off OFF ok, just choose read all( where avaible)
simos pcr 2.1 R/W obd ok
was unlocked few months ago with ktag
ME7.3.H4 boot mode read /write full OK
Peugeot 807 ECU DELPHI DCM 3.5 READ OBD OK
MED17.4 peugeot 207 read write ok
Citroen c5 DCM3.5 read write OBD ok, checksum ok
Opel cdti 1.7 ecu Denso R/W ok
Linea 2011 Marelli 6F3 read/write OBD Trought K-line, ( FG 54 read only flash trought CAN)
VW PCR 2.1 work v18 clone no problem
read and write on bench
Fiat Scudo as (Peugeot 3008) 2.0 HDI Delphi DCM 3.5
R/W OBD/CAN (CRC=OK) = OK
Fiat Stilo IAW6JF.P3, through OBD, mpc and eeprom read write for immo-off, all ok.
Ford Fusion 1.4 TDCi Siemens Sid 804 R/W OBD CAN = OK
cdti zafria B z17dtj 2010 kw 108-81
worked for me..also astra J on 2011 with Denso 1.5mb
It works perfectly with PCR 2.1
Read written FLESH + MPC + EEPROM fiat marely 6f3, OK through OBD.
There are few tools that read-write EEPROM marely by OBD.
OBD-flash reading 3min 20 sec., 45 sec-writing.
MPC and EEPROM read OBD-20 seconds, 20 seconds writing (multyboot OBD) .A very strong and stable tool.
Ecu Selection = Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI Siemens PPD 1.X
Bosch Hardware Number: 03G906018CD
Vw Software Number: 03G906018CD
System Type Number: R4 2.0l PPD1.5 G
R/W OBD/CAN = OK
Ford Fusion Style 1.6 TDCi Bosch EDC16C34-2
Software Number 1 : 1037377399
Software Number 2 : 1037377399
Ford Hardware Number : 9653239880
Ford Software Number : 5255A56D10
Ecu Type : BOSCH EDC16C34/2.2
R/W OBD/CAN = OK …. after write not error OBD scanner.
Hope it helps.
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